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Update: Business as usual at popular Pakefield pub - despite new Tesco store plans

10:35 05 November 2012

The Tramway Hotel and Pub on London Road, Pakefield could be turned into a Tesco Express.  It is also very close to two other general stores.

The Tramway Hotel and Pub on London Road, Pakefield could be turned into a Tesco Express. It is also very close to two other general stores.

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THE landlord of a popular pub in Pakefield admitted they were “still trading” and it was business as usual.

Moves to close the Tramway Hotel at Pakefield and replace it with a new Tesco Express store have angered locals, as it looks increasingly likely that the Lowestoft area is to get a fourth Tesco store.

But this morning pub manager Terry Hunter said that despite suggestions it had already closed its doors, the pub was “still trading.”

And while he admitted it would be a “sad day” if the Tramway Hotel were to close, the situation was “out of his hands.”

Mr Hunter, who has been at the pub for 15 years, said: “We are still trading until further notice.”

Tesco Express said it would be submitting a planning application to Waveney District Council to open at the Tramway Hotel on London Road, Pakefield and would carry out minor changes to the building including a small single-storey rear extension and putting in a cash-machine.

If approved, the store could open in the summer and will create about 20 full-time and part-time jobs.

It will be close to the rival Spar store on Pakefield Street and the Co-operative Foodstore on London Road South.

A Tesco spokesman said the store would be aimed at people in the immediate area, within walking distance.

“This reduces the need for longer trips out of town, particularly for those without a car,” he said.

If the plans win approval, it will become the fourth Tesco in the Lowestoft area – joining the supermarket at Leisure Way in Gunton, the town centre store in London Road North and one at Beccles Road, Carlton Colville.

38 comments

  • Hi one and all, being one of the family who owns and runs the SPAR and Post Office it seems strange to me that Tesco are proposing to employ 20 people When Terry at the tramways employs 7 and we at the SPAR employ 25 Back to school tesco.

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    Roger

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • I often drink in the tramways and tonight find out Tesco has brought it. We don't need Tesco, We have the Coop and Spar. These shops will suffer and also the bakers will suffer at the hands of the bully boys. The tramways is a historic building we need to save it. Tesco will ruin it and the local area. Tesco are just greedy, there is no reason for it to be in pakefield other than greed and domination.

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    Rampy

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • Its not true for Tesco's to say this will help those without a car to get their groceries without going into town. All the major supermarkets provide home shopping so customers can get groceries delivered. There is a narrow lay-by for buses to use. Its a busy bus route. Customers, particularly when the weather is bad may be tempted to park outside causing obstruction to buses and other vehicles. Wheelchairs and shopping trollies don't mix well on a narrow pavement!

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    Krisp Hale

    Sunday, November 4, 2012

  • @ Nathan Long you say more jobs? but for how long, I can't see 3 stores fighting for the same "walking " customers staying open so when one or more of the existing stores close they will lose there jobs. And if its Spar that goes then we lose the post office too. Not enough stores? Lmao there is plenty and yes they might get busy but not as busy as the ones I have been to in other parts of the UK. If you want a store so bad donate your house to Tesco. If they don't already own you. lol

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    Rampy

    Wednesday, November 7, 2012

  • As far as their charitabel work goes, they give a tiny proprtion of their profits with maximum publicity, because that's what it's for: To make as much properganda for the minimum ouytlay. Bunch of hypocrites.

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    Frank

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • If this is allowed to go ahead then there must be questions raised as to which one of either Spa or Co-Op will close due to too much competition. This in itself will led to a dis-used building which I doubt the planning committee will consider when making its decision. Will the committee see sense in public opinion whom they are supposed to represent or will they be influenced by other means ?????

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    TheMajor

    Monday, November 5, 2012

  • @vinny.p This is to be a Tesco Express. These are 'convenience' stores and the prices charged are higher than the larger Tesco supermarkets and Tesco Extra stores.

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    point du jour

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Read this - maybe there's an update on this "loophole!" Obviously Jeremy Hunt needed to get some positive press after his uselessness as a Minister... http:www.getsurrey.co.uknewss2119483_jeremy_hunt_to_look_into_tescos_godalming_plans

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    Dogberry

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • One thing I find funny is on the report it says "former Tramways hotel" as if its already closed, Was drinking in there last night so still open for now, There is a petition to help save it, So please everyone pop into the Tramways and sign it. cheers

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    Rampy

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • there is absoloutly no need for another tesco anywhere in lowestoft, let alone pakefield,. if tesco are not stopped soon there will be no competition whatsoever anywhere in the uk, as they get their grubby little hands everywhere. if the planning people allow this when there is 2 supermarkets already in pakefield in such a tiny area then one can only assume that money talks, as for tesco wanting it there just so pedestrians can use it what a load of bull. this is a typical tesco move, the other thing they will do is buy the property then leave it to rot until the council begs them to do something with it , then they get their shop there.

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    blackswan

    Tuesday, November 6, 2012

  • I'd hate to see yet another pub go, and even more so if it falls victim to "Tescopoly". Nothing that Tesco promises in the way of jobs and facilities comes anywhere near the reality, and it will just mess up the other shops. You will also find that they are not cheaper, and they charge more in these small branches than they do in their big stores like the one at Corton i.e. another rip-off. Go on, Pakefieldians, and tell Tesco where to get off.

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    T Doff

    Monday, November 5, 2012

  • @Krisp Hale - your comments about customer parking are spot on. I should also like to know where deliveries are to be made. Many of these Express stores receive their deliveries across the footpath and through the front of the store. This is obviously not practical here for the same reasons. There is, of course, a car park and side access to The Tramway via Florence Road but it seems to me that it would be difficult to back a 40ft truck in there to make deliveries. Perhaps someone who actually drives one would like to comment.

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    point du jour

    Tuesday, November 6, 2012

  • @Roger - I rather think that your question was directed at me! :) Although Pakefield born and bred etc., I have assisted in an anti-Tesco campaign in a village elsewhere in East Anglia and have studied many similar cases as a result. The campaign was ultimately unsuccessful in spite of a petition signed by 400 people and over 500 individual letters of objection (there were 10 letters of support). Objections were largely based on the intensification of use of the site (it had previously been a clothes shop); increased traffic & illegal parking (double yellow lines do not apply to 40 foot trucks unloading apparently) and the subsequent dangers to pedestrians and cyclists. Tesco were not allowed to install their standard illuminated signage or to have an outside ATM however. The effect of a Tesco on the existing retail hierarchy was not considered by the District Council to be relevant to planning considerations at that time, but might be now. The "small single-storey rear extension" for which Tesco will need planning permission at The Tramway is probably to house the considerable refrigeration plant needed and objections need to be made at this stage since it is much more difficult for them to proceed without it. Neighbours should be aware that there will be continuous noise from this plant and also from the very early morning deliveries. A basic internet search will, sadly, reveal much of this information quite quickly; many communities have attempted to keep Tesco out. Most, but not all, have failed. The brown envelopes have usually been distributed well in advance! In my experience campaigns on social media will cut no ice with Tesco or the District Council, but might be useful in mobilising an action group which will then need to proceed via the usual channels.

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    point du jour

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • Hi Dawn, Where have you been all of this time? everything that you have stated is spot on; where on earth did you obtain all of this knowledge. Roger

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    Roger

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • If Tesco really want to demonstrate their credentials as champions of local communities, they will abide by any local referendum petition if it is shown that a significant number of people don't want them. Personally I think that the charm of Pakefield is that the shops are truly "local" - we don't need this - arise people of Pakefield - now's your chance to demonstrate that you have voice! Go to the local shops and sign their petition, contact your local and County Councillors and give them your views, write to the Press...contact local radio...etc etc..you don't have to bullied by "Tescopoly!"

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    Dogberry

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • I was for having another Tesco express there, but I thought it was supposed to take the old refrigeration building next to it, not the pub itself. If it's going to replace the pub then I'm against it. There's perfectly good unused land right next door. Having a Tesco express there would be good, as much as I like to support locals, The Spar and Co-Op are pretty expensive.

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    lpeek

    Monday, November 5, 2012

  • The disadvantages of losing the Tramway Hotel are many.The loss of jobs ,Barstaff,cooks & cleaners.The loss of an economic eating place for many elderly regulars.The loss of a venue for social functions .there are manymore benifits in keeping the Tramway hotel than allowing Tesco to take over.

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    just albert

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • I wonder whether the sudden closure of Hutsons butchers shop, (just across Florence Road from The Tramway) in March 2012, was in any way related to this? Were they made an offer they couldn't refuse to remove competition?

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    point du jour

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • If this goes through I will never use another Tesco again. I already avoid them as they ride roughshod over local planners & communities & have no regard for suppliers or competiion. How vile do they have to be before people twig?

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    Frank

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • We just do not need this but no doubt WDC will roll over and just let this one slide through just like they do with all the other applications by Tesco and the like.

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    Marc Capen

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Many Pakefield residents do not have a means of seeing the internet.So if you are as insenced as I am against a Tesco,s on the tramway site,please canvas your neighbours to sign a petition against it.Most shops in the area have one.You might also suggest they write or phone the Lowestoft journal to register their disapproval,so that their names can be added to their poll.

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    just albert

    Friday, November 9, 2012

  • ...and interesting to note their charity "sweetener"...perhaps the Promoting Pakefield Group could register as a charity and then get Tesco to support them in their fight against...Tesco!!!

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    Dogberry

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • One thing I find funny is on the report it says "former Tramways hotel" as if its already closed, Was drinking in there last night so still open for now, There is a petition to help save it, So please everyone pop into the Tramways and sign it. cheers

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    Rampy

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • @TheMajor - We have all been assuming that any planning applications by Tesco will go to committee, but I suppose it is possible that since they are ostensibly 'minor' the decisions might be delegated to the Planning Officers. Incidentally Tesco hardly ever submit applications for these Express stores using their own name. They usually use a local land management company or a small provincial architecture practice, so that the application slips in under the radar of local councillors and residents. By the time the identity of the real applicant, Tesco, is known, it is often too late to do anything about it. Pakefield is slightly ahead of the game in this respect, but objectors need to be aware that when they are searching the WDC website for planning applications relating to The Tramway, Tesco will not necessarily appear as the applicant.

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    point du jour

    Tuesday, November 6, 2012

  • Local residents might like to consider that the Spar shop also houses Pakefield Post Office. Shops like the Spar, which are not backed up by a multi-national corporation, run on tight margins and so a small loss of trade can make the business unviable. The potential loss of the Post Office is a real danger - and this would affect not only the large number of older people living locally, but also many of the younger ones posting their eBay items!

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    point du jour

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Many thanks for that information, point du jour, I have been in retail since I was 7 years old; the year was 1947 when I first entered into retail and still doing my bit. Not surprised at anything that happens in today's world. It's not about morals just pure greed by the large conglomerates. Kind regards Roger

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    Roger

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • @Rampy - I should think the reason it says "former Tramway Hotel" is because this article has been written using the Tesco press release - no actual journalism involved at all! I'm pleased to hear there is a petition. It's a good way to show support. However people really need to contact their Pakefield councilllors on Waveney District Council who are the planning authority for this. They should also look out for, and make written objections to, any associated planning applications as they arise. I know it's not what people want to spend their time doing, but it is necessary.

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    point du jour

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • This is the standard Tesco approach for a new Express store. Acquire a building which does not require change of use; state that the store is aimed at local people who will arrive on foot or by bike (this never happens); promise 20 jobs (what about the jobs that then disappear from other local businesses?); purport to have an interest in the local community or charities (the bribe). The reality is that Tesco Express prices are higher than in other Tesco stores – although they will be lower initially until the competition is eliminated. Deliveries are made in very large vehicles, and the combination of the shop and the ATM machine is a magnet for illegal and dangerous parking. I do not want Tesco in Pakefield. We have lost our butchery and I would not wish to see our independent bakery threatened. The Co-op (an ethical organisation) and the Spar offer a good range. The addition of a further outlet for loss-leader cheap alcohol and its associated anti-social behaviour is also unwelcome. The argument usually put forward against objectors is “If you don't like it, don't shop there.” But Tesco never go away, once you have them you are stuck with them; they will subsidise unprofitable stores in order to maintain their presence. District Councils, who are unwilling or unable to face the legal expenses of planning appeals, almost never turn down applications from Tesco.

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    point du jour

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • @just albert - You make a very good point about many people not having internet access in Pakefield. It can be so slow as to be almost useless even when you do have it! It is important that people keeps in touch with their neighbours as this Tesco proposal develops so that everyone knows what is going on.

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    point du jour

    Monday, November 12, 2012

  • Being a resident in Pakefield I can easily walk to my local Spar, which has a friendly, personal service. The owners & staff are excellent, plus we are fortunate to still have the convenience of the post office. What about all the disabledpensionersmotherschildren who cannot drive and who use the SparCoop not only as a shop, but as somewhere to visit to brighten their day up while they are shopping. I think WDC should concentrate more on improving road systembridge to generate lots more employment in Lowestoft . I am probably wasting my time writing this, as I bet the deal with Tesco has already been agreed !!! I wonder what our local MP has to say about it?

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    Val Franklin

    Friday, November 2, 2012

  • @ Nathan Long you say more jobs? but for how long, I can't see 3 stores fighting for the same "walking " customers staying open so when one or more of the existing stores close they will lose there jobs. And if its Spar that goes then we lose the post office too. Not enough stores? Lmao there is plenty and yes they might get busy but not as busy as the ones I have been to in other parts of the UK. If you want a store so bad donate your house to Tesco. If they don't already own you. lol

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    Rampy

    Wednesday, November 7, 2012

  • oh just one more thought if tesco get the go ahead for this you can bet your life one of the 2 supermarkets already there will close, leaving a ready made premises for a bigger tesco .

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    blackswan

    Tuesday, November 6, 2012

  • Tired of going to every supermarket in Lowestoft, finding the car park is full, the shop its self is full and the shelfs are empty. People complain about there being to many supermarkets well there is not enough to be honest when you look at the bigger picture. Another express store i think would help to take the burden of are already over crowed supermarkets not only that the prospect of more jobs is not to be turned down. Im tired of hearing people complain there is no jobs yet when something new opens i hear countless times "we don't need that" or "we already have one" to be honest i think we should just let them have it, more jobs, more money spent just means more prospect for this run down old town that needs a drastic change, letting developments like this happen is the way forward.

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    Nathan Long

    Wednesday, November 7, 2012

  • I Live in pakefield and would love a local Tesco. At the moment we have spar and co op who charge way to much for their products so it would be great as at the moment I have no choice but to go into town for my shop. But surely this will only be A small store for bits and bobs so don't see the problem and I hope they do come to pakefield.

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    vinny.p

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Agree its not needed to many shops already in that location and already a lot of people park badly around that area another store is not needed. With tesco owning the One stop family of shops they in fact already have around 7 stores related to them in the town (4 one stop, 2 tesco expresses and the large one) so this would inscrease it to 8.

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    SIRWolfe

    Saturday, November 3, 2012

  • This need not happen - there is now a Localism Bill and what that allows for is a local referendum on any development. Let's see what the people of Pakefield want - and then when they have spoken out undoubtedly against "Tescopoly" we'll see if Tory "Localism" really does work...but don't hold your breath!

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    Dogberry

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Does anyone remember the debacle with the superstore planning? WDC turned them down but they appealed to Thatcher, who ignored us & approved it. Ancient mature trees that Tesco pledged to preserve got felled. After all, "Every little helps"! Don't be fooled, Tesco are only for Tesco. I don't want to see the Co-op or Spar in Pakefield go under. How many jobs will that cost? I bet Tesco are already scheming to get the post office from the Spar. Greedy so & so's.

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    Frank

    Thursday, November 1, 2012

  • Many thanks for that information, point du jour, I have been in retail since I was 7 years old; the year was 1947 when I first entered into retail and still doing my bit. Not surprised at anything that happens in today's world. It's not about morals just pure greed by the large conglomerates. Kind regards Roger

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    Roger

    Friday, November 2, 2012

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